Game Over, Red Herring,
April 1998
Hazel Henderson believes the information
age
will bring an end to win-lost economics.
By Deborah Claymon
deborah@redherring.com
How is information technology changing global economics? Let me count
the ways. At the most fundamental level, we are now at a bifurcation
point. For hundreds of years, we have used money-based exchange. This
system was an evolution from the earlier days when we bartered. It doesn't
matter what we call money -- coins or paper or blips on a computer screen --
the idea is still that we have this substance called money that embodies value
and keeps track of transactions. But now we're moving back to barter. And
what's really fascinating is that we are going to a direct, information-based
exchange and trading system where money isn't necessary. Computers and
computer networks give us the capability for sophisticated barter without currencies. It
isn't just a matter of bartering a pig for a load of hay. Now we can
accomplish multiple-party barter deals, and we have the technological system
to keep track of the exchanges.
When do you expect that this return
to barter will start affecting our everyday lives?It's going to be
a very gradual thing. Today it's most evident in high-level exchanges,
especially for developing countries, which are turning to barter to get what
they need and therefore circumventing the necessity of large sums of
currency.
Have mainstream economists missed these changes wrought by
information technology? Yes, I really think they have. When you
tell economists we are going to a new system that doesn't use money, they get
very upset because all of their degrees and skills come from a focus on money. This
has been a 25-year-long crusade for me, and I've earned a lot of enemies in
the economics profession. No one likes to be told that they will be obsolete.
How
is the move away from currency affecting worldwide banking? We're only
just now seeing the beginning of this revolution, but what it implies for central
bankers and finance ministers is that they have competition. Bankers
have been trying to re-create scarcity on the Internet through new electronic
money systems. They are working like mad to do this, because if a pure, information-based
paradigm of exchange takes hold, they lose their enormous power base. A
return to barter -- to win-win economics -- will change all the world's stock
markets and will finally provide an alternative to the banks as a source of
capital.
Is a major stock market crash imminent? There's a 25
percent probability that before we are through with the Asian market meltdown,
there will be a major national default somewhere. This is exactly what
I would have expected, since we've taken down all the firewalls between economies. At
some point, the finance ministers of the big countries and the central banks
will have to get together and establish some regulations for this global casino.
What
do you mean by a "global casino"? Speculators are responsible
for at least 90 percent of the trading on the daily currency markets. Traditional
economists have always said that currency trading creates very deep markets,
but a recent study revealed the opposite. Not only does currency trading
cause increased volatility, but currency traders are also error prone. So
we can expect a lot more disasters like Barings Bank and Orange County, California.
You
have advocated a global securities and exchange commission. What would
be the purpose of such an institution? It would be a set of principles
requiring companies all over the world to conform to a set of global accounting
and trading rules. Right now we don't have any harmonization of these
rules, and some countries have no rules at all. It would provide much
greater stability in the world markets. Where we are today is rather
like Wall Street in 1929.
Do you think the "only the paranoid survive" approach
of the computer industry is the best way to grow the market? To grow
the market, the industry has to balance competition and cooperation. Technology
is actually teaching the world about abundance, and the long-term players in
this game are the ones that understand that the best way to get market penetration
is to connect as many people as possible to the technology. We're dealing
with an abundant resource: information. The greater the number of people
who are wired up, the more there is for everybody. I don't understand
why the leaders of the technology industry bring a supercompetitive scarcity
mentality with them from the old industrial age.
How do you view the
free market competition of the technology industry? The free market
says that we have the best of all possible worlds -- that we have the technology
that individual consumers have decided they want. Of course, that isn't
actually so. What we have is huge institutions and huge corporations
deciding for us what we want and then putting enormous sums of money into advertising
campaigns to ram it down our throats or into bribing politicians in order to
get public funds to develop these technologies.
What do you make of
the squabbles over standards and operating systems? The battle for
capturing global standards is happening in every sector in the world today. But
the Web is one of the first signs of a cooperative public interest model. Perhaps
we can find a way to institutionalize the goals of the Web's organic beginnings,
first for the technology industry and then for other markets.
What are
the economic implications of widespread use of the Internet?If this
use is regulated and untaxed, eventually it's going to have very negative consequences
on bricks-and-mortar communities all over the world. It puts people who
are rooted in and care about their communities at a terrible disadvantage to
people who are footloose and irresponsible.
Do you see any hopeful signs
that we are getting more economically cooperative?That's one of the
great promises of the information age -- that cooperation will develop along
with a greater knowledge of the distant societies.I have been writing about
the "love economy" for 25 years. The love economy is the amount
that people desire to be altruistic on a global scale even though such altruism
is unrewarded. The love economy is considered by economists to be irrational.
They say being a volunteer is irrational, and yet 89 million Americans still
volunteer at least five hours a week in their communities.
What effect
has the rise of consumerism had on global economies?There is good
news and bad news. The consumerism of the West is generating an "attention" economy
in which time is more important than money. The producers of goods and
the producers of services, entertainment, information, and education are all
extremely aware that there are only 24 hours in a day in which to get a person's
attention. And despite the number of Americans volunteering and turning
to less materialistic pursuits, commercial media are still promoting the old-fashioned
image of "I am because I have."
You've called for social innovation
to match the technological innovations in the computer- and satellite-based "global
casino." Can a socially responsible business survive today? Yes,
as long as they are out there raising the ethical standards as a whole and
getting more and more people to understand that they have choices --
that, for example, they can pay ten more dollars for a pair of shoes made without
child labor.
You believe that competition has even obscured the benefits
of cooperation. What do you think will change our global competitive
mind-set? We will continue to create these very unhappy dramas
for ourselves -- like the Asian crisis -- until we learn that in
our current system, not everybody can win the game.