Win-Win World, Wired, February
1997
Futurist Hazel Henderson has a modest proposal:
Abolish economics and make way for the economy of abundance.
By Kevin Kelly
Is a profession that missed the biggest
change since the Industrial Revolution worth saving? British-born
futurist Hazel Henderson doesn't think so. A veteran technocrat -
with stints at the US Office of Technology Assessment and the National
Science Foundation - she now spends her time lecturing corporate
chiefs and labor leaders alike on coming to grips with economic realities
that increasingly defy conventional economics. In between she retreats
to a cottage off the Florida coast to write, most recently Building
a Win-Win World:Life beyond Global Economic Warfare.Wired caught
up with Henderson in San Francisco, where she was chairing the economics
panels at Mikhail Gorbachev's State of the World forum.
Wired: Is the information age knocking the underpinnings
out from under traditional economics?
Henderson: Oh yes. Economics was about
scarcity, about setting up turnstiles and gatekeepers and all that.
But as we move away from the idea that we're shoveling dirt around,
economics can't be overhauled anymore.
So it's useless?
Pretty much. The important insights now are in game theory and systems theory.
But the economics profession remains really powerful. Poor people don't hire
economists - it's banks, brokers, and large corporations who need someone to
jawbone the Fed to raise interest rates.But haven't economists like Paul Romer
and Brian Arthur, who do appreciate the power of technology, restored some
of its relevance?
Systems theorists have understood this for years! What else is new? I'm always
telling Brian that he has transcended economics. But if he admitted that, he'd
never win the Nobel Prize.
What will it take to get more people to understand this?
The systemic learning experience we need is a really big stock market crash.
The scenario goes like this: The consumer price index, by overstating inflation,
has all the central banks in herd behavior, circling the wagons. That makes
it very easy to tip large economies into a deflation that would be very hard
to stop. Then people stop borrowing money, and you end up in a spiral.
You've called the current economic situation a modern "tragedy of the
commons."
I'm talking about things like the electromagnetic spectrum. When we started
out, it was wide open. Today it's filled up, to the point where we need to
prioritize. The intelligent thing would be to call a conference of users.
Who sets the rules?
Left to the invisible hand, it will be the lowest common denominator,
usually the mafia. Look at eastern Europe.
Shouldn't private organizations set the standards? After all, they provide
the technology and capital.
That can be a good idea, as long as it's done in the open. I'm very
happy about the global standard-setting that business has been doing. But we
have to make sure that information about how standards are set gets out there.
That's how you make markets accountable.
What role should governments play?
National governments gave away a lot of autonomy in the 1980s, when they deregulated,
accepted GATT and NAFTA, and all the rest. So power must be pooled again at
the international level, where you can forge agreements that recapture some
power over global corporations. That's why I'm interested in the UN - it's
the only international broker we have. The UN already sets standards, through
organizations like the International Air Transport Association. For 50 years
the UN has engaged in quiet norm-setting. It's one of our best hopes.
What's the biggest economic shift you see coming now?
The demise of banking. If the bankers don't extend credit, if money
isn't democratized, we'll go around them.
How?
High tech bartering. We could not go around the money system until people had
computers and the Internet, because bartering is clunky. But now you can do
four-, five-, or six-way trades, where you say, "We want bananas, these
people have tin, and these people have copper to sell," and computers
keep track.
What about locally based currencies?
We need three currencies. A global reserve currency, for trade transactions.
We need national currencies, in which I include food stamps, student loans,
vouchers for this and that. And then there are locally based systems - computer
barter and local currencies. This would allow a huge paradigm shift, because
money wouldn't be scarce. And people would have the option of not running around,
not getting and spending money.
Won't, say, Citibank find ways to co-opt this?
The old giants can't turn their ships around fast enough. Their business is
the business of scarcity. What we're talking about is the abundance business,
where anyone can make a market in anything. Big companies are terrified of
this. They're offering cash accounts and smartcards, but this is simply recycling.
They can't get the idea that we don't need the money loop. If you're Citibank,
and you have all that sunk capital - all your core competencies are in manipulating
the money loop - then you're sunk if people begin to turn away.
So are we heading toward perfect competition?
We're going to see a balance of cooperation and competition. We got lost in
the 18th-century textbooks, which saw only the competitive side. We haven't
seen the utility of the cooperation side, the standard-setting side, the side
that creates protocols in information markets.
Are economists starting to see that?
Economics is trying to recycle itself by grabbing insights from other disciplines.
Economists are running around saying, "We're chaos theorists, we're game
theorists." But they're coming off too narrow a framework. And for every
economist who has finally got the message that technology creates abundance,
there are dozens pointing in the opposite direction.-Kevin Kelly (kev1438@aol.com) is
a writer and former Business Week correspondent who lives in Oakland,California.
He is not the executive editor of Wired.
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